http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID Comments on 'refuse to accept a national ID card' en-gb team@pledgebank.com 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 2 hourly http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2674406 Peoople if you havent found these sites by now, here are the best ones www.prisonplanet.com www.infowars.com www.plisonplanet.tv www.letsroll911.org www.whatreallyhappened.com www.wearechange.org www.pnacitizen.org www.911proof.com as far as that id card they can kiss my AMERICAN ARSE i will not take it http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2614812 If anyone wants to try to stop the ID card in the first place, write to your MP! And please sign this pledge: http://www.pledgebank.com/libertynotterror Please sign the pledge and let our MPs know our dissatisfaction. http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2452825 The greatest threat to civil liberties since the last time they were abolished in the UK. Anyone reading this thread who hasn't researched this subject properly should do so NOW. If you've got 'nothing to fear', then you should have no problem getting educated. http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2438925 http://freedomnetwork08.blogspot.com/ http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2422921 Ok I am totally against RFID chips backed by the Bilderberger Group. The Real Deal is us we have to help each other inform each other. Like those two guys on here arguing back in forth one thrashing the next because he may be misinformed well instead of bashing we could try enlightening those who don’t know. In the end if there is to be a fight we will need each other the common man and women to fight together. Check my pledge NoToTheAmeiro. Its a bought the next phase in this big plan it is the North American Union and it will help form Three powerful states the European union Asian pacific union and our north American union.They plan to take away most of our freedoms then using eugenics to exterminate most of the population I.E. China,Natzi's (population control)This union will also make our constitution noll in void.Feel free to contact me on This issue or If I can assist in anyway you plan on fighting back ovenhotstudios@yahoo.com http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2337489 My name is Paul David Beard, I am a prominent young businessman from south london. As well as a self confessed entrepreneur, I love life, my family and friends and doing what I can to better society. But if this insane legistlation requirement ever comes to pass I will publicy refuse to endorse to the point of indefinite imprisonment. This is not a future I have envisaged for Britain and its people, nor any other people of the world. We must oppose this dreadful depiction of our future now, that has been painted by central government and our central banking system. Feel free to contact me if you share any degree of my opinion. pdb@pixel-gear.com Paul. http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2274016 I would'nt accept it, even if it was truly secure. So many hackers these days can find out lots of things. What if you lose the card? You lose everything. With that, you are more secure carrying a bunch of cards, it lowers the chances of them getting it. But one thing that would be cool is if certain things were put on a chip and embedded somewhere like on a forearm. I dont think this pledge will stop the goverment or anything, but then again, we might only see the beginning of things like this in years to come. http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2211764 I won't accept it even if I'm the only one. I'm quite serious. http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2182240 ...continued from above: "DHS has kicked the can down the road to the next administration, and conceivably the next two or three administrations," said Barry Steinhardt, a lawyer with the American Civil Liberties Union. Already, 17 states have said they would either refuse to issue the new licenses or have asked Congress to repeal a 2005 law that required states to collect and store additional data on driver's license applicants, such as birth certificates, Social Security numbers and home addresses. Under Real ID, all new licenses would be machine-readable and contain personal information that could be scanned by governments and potentially by corporations. At a news conference yesterday, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the guidelines represent a balance between security and privacy in accordance with the Real ID Act. He warned that residents in states such as Georgia and Washington, which have refused to comply with the program, may be subject to additional security checks or prevented from boarding flights once the program begins this spring. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/11/AR2008011103410_pf.html http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2182237 ID Plan Is Broadly Criticized Bipartisan Objections Cite Security, Costs and Privacy By Dafna Linzer Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, January 12, 2008; A02 A new Bush administration plan to create national standards for driver's licenses drew heavy criticism yesterday from civil liberties groups, some Republican and Democratic lawmakers, governors, and the travel industry. The critics said the new licenses anticipated under the plan, which is aimed at screening out potential terrorists and uncovering illegal immigrants, could still be forged. They also complained that the program, known as Real ID, would be costly for states to implement, potentially restrict summer travel, and allow private companies access to the personal data of most U.S. citizens. But they also welcomed yesterday's official announcement that states have until May 2011 before they need to begin issuing licenses that meet the department's new guidelines, and until December 2014 to begin replacing current licenses. Drivers over the age of 50 will not have to obtain new licenses until the end of 2017. The deadline extensions give both Congress and future presidents time to reconsider what opponents have depicted as a national identification system that will infringe on privacy rights and leave room for large-scale identity theft. continues below... http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2151278 I don't want the Brits to have to endure a National ID either. I don't mind if you sign the pledge :) http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2138174 USA is a constitutional republic not democracy. We are not governed by the majority of the people but by the rule of law. The rule of law protects the minority and weak from the tyranny of the majority. We all have inalienable rights that cannot be voted away by a majority of voters. If the majority of the people want security and is willing to sacrifice liberty, the government still cannot infringe on the rights of the majority nor minority. Democracies are mob rule. Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner. Freedom: Two very hungry wolves looking for dinner and finding a very well-informed and well-armed sheep. "Freedom is not defined by safety. Freedom is defined by the ability of citizens to live without government interference." - Ron Paul Take action everyday and every 11th. EMA: educate, motivate, activate. Many hands make light work. Consider joining forces with those who try to prevent history from repeating itself. Become a student of history. We know of no better way to predict the future than by the past. http://TruthAction.org http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2138171 "Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence.Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race." ~ Calvin Coolidge Ron Paul, perhaps a final warning to apathetic Americans that Our forgotten legacy of a Republic is at risk. Our Liberties and our Currency ... all are collapsing. Learn the elemental difference between a Democracy and a Republic. A precise, clear film about what's at risk; why, and the urgent demand for action. History, it would seem, is about ready to repeat itself, with yet another doomed Empire that simply over-extended and economically collapsed from within. Similarly evident to all from the outside, but completely obscured to the citizenry who are about to perish. The Romans call to America from their graves............WAKE UP! There are lots of good movements around the world for peace and justice, but most are just picking scales off of a dragon. Limited government, protection of the individual and 9/11 truth will be the only ways for us to protect the liberty of our children and the rest of the earth. A film everyone should show their entire families and communities ASAP: http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Ron_Paul_A_Republic_If_We_Can_Keep_It "Who Are These Kooks?" http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2007/cbarchive_20071218.html http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2126630 This is just one more step towards a police state. A government that can track you everywhere you go is a government that needs to monitor and control its people. That's why we're fighting this kind of thing in NH with the Free State Project. www.pledgebank.com/Next1000 http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2095883 Yea, I know. Technology is great. Until the government gets hold of it and finds reasons to screw up great ideas. http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2064192 We have a National DNA Database with over 4.5 million people on it 1,000000 of which are INNOCENT people here in the UK, I urge my American cousins not to go down the road that the UK has, we have CCTV on high steel posts in every small town we have number plate recognition cameras on every main road keeping track of ever car movement in the UK for 5 years, do you want to turn into the Orwellian nightmare that Britain has??? Think Carefully America! http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_2010606 Naomi Wolf on the current state of tyranny - MUST SEE/RESEARCH/VIEW http://www.911blogger.com/node/12610 Please watch: www.WKJO.com www.911PressForTruth.com and their new on the same site called "In Their Own Words" (stories of Jersey Girls) www.WhatIsTheEndGame.com www.RonPaulTV.com www.RonPaul2008.com www.TeaParty07.com www.TruthNetRadio.com www.AE911Truth.org www.PatriotsQuestion911.com Every thinking human simply must get these under your belt before you can draw any logical conclusions. Conspiracies are EVERYWHERE; they are ubiquitous. Facts cry out for theories. Theories are EVERYWHERE; they are ubiquitous. The official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is irrational and highly implausible with a "low chance of probability". This begs the question, do the alternative theories fit into the puzzle better? Keep watching documentaries and consider all sides because, "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_1965653 http://offthegridgirls.wordpress.com/rfid-chip http://www.antichips.com/press-releases/microchip-imlants-tumors.html http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_1956221 http://www.KatherineAlbrecht.com http://SpyChips.com http://FreedomToFascism.com http://ZeitgeistMovie.com - - - - - Uncovering The Truth Host: Dr. Katherine Albrecht Website: www.spychips.com Website: www.katherinealbrecht.com Program Archives Call-in Number: (512) 646-1984 (888) 202-1984 Time: Monday-Friday, 9 am - 11 am CST Dr. Katherine Albrecht graduated magna cum laude with a Bachelor of Science degree in Business Administration with a concentration in International Marketing. She holds a Doctorate in Education from Harvard University with a research focus in consumer education, privacy and psychology. Katherine is co-author of "Spychips: How Major Corporations Plan to Track your Every Move with RFID." Two days prior to its release, Spychips flew the top of the Amazon bestseller charts. Katherine is also the director of CASPIAN (Consumers Against Supermarket Privacy Invasion and Numbering), an organization she founded in 1999 to advocate free-market, consumer-based solutions to the problem of retail privacy invasion. Katherine is widely recognized as one of the world's leading experts on consumer privacy. She regularly speaks on the consumer privacy and civil liberties impacts of new technologies, with an emphasis on RFID and retail issues. She has testified on RFID technology before the Federal Trade Commission, state legislatures, the European Commission, and the Federal Reserve Bank, and she has given over a thousand television, radio and print interviews to news outlets all over the world. Her efforts have been featured on CNN, NPR, the CBS Evening News, Business Week, and the London Times, to name just a few. Join the discussion: http://www.911blogger.com/node/12519 http://www.pledgebank.com/NationalID#comment_1914133 I never thought I would be agreeing with the Christians who think this card is part of the "mark of the beast," but here I am. I think this card steps over the boundaries of what is acceptable due to the excessive monitoring capabilities that are built in to the card. There is no security-related purpose to this. If the idea is that we can track down one terrorist who was able to commit a crime on our soil, then that simply overstates the uselessness of the entire concept. You cannot use government tracking to find everybody who would wish harm to our nation. There will always be more as long as our foreign policy continues in this manner. There will never be a way to track every warm body that enters this patch of soil, large as she is, and with 12 million illegal immigrants here now, what's the point anyway? We're clearly never going to be able to find the people who don't want to be found. Those of you who align with the "if you have nothing to hide" attitude need to read the statements of Thomas Jefferson. It isn't freedom if you have to justify it to yourself to feel it.